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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 24, 2024 15:26:48 GMT
Interesting. I have always wondered if there was a mismatch of frequencies required at the different ends of the 493. I guess demand is much higher on the Wimbledon to Tooting section. If Sadiq Khan’s Richmond to Wimbledon Superloop route is introduced then I imagine there will be accompanying changes to the 493 which might allow for a higher frequency at the Tooting end. Glad that the 493 has been a success story in terms of attracting passengers. Lots of new residential development along Plough Lane too. The 493 is one of those orbital routes that really needs tidying up and also more suitable vehicles. Hopefully the Wimbledon-Richmond Superloop will go some way to that. I actually wonder if it'd be better to chop it at Roehampton in that instance and send it to Danebury Avenue or Bessborough Road and then recycle the PVR savings into increasing it to 6bph. Most longer-distance trips would still be catered for. That would be my thinking too.
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Post by abellion on Apr 24, 2024 15:46:22 GMT
Interesting. I have always wondered if there was a mismatch of frequencies required at the different ends of the 493. I guess demand is much higher on the Wimbledon to Tooting section. If Sadiq Khan’s Richmond to Wimbledon Superloop route is introduced then I imagine there will be accompanying changes to the 493 which might allow for a higher frequency at the Tooting end. Glad that the 493 has been a success story in terms of attracting passengers. Lots of new residential development along Plough Lane too. The 493 is one of those orbital routes that really needs tidying up and also more suitable vehicles. Hopefully the Wimbledon-Richmond Superloop will go some way to that. I actually wonder if it'd be better to chop it at Roehampton in that instance and send it to Danebury Avenue or Bessborough Road and then recycle the PVR savings into increasing it to 6bph. Most longer-distance trips would still be catered for. I was thinking Barnes Common under the impression that the Superloop will bypass Southfields and it will keep the link to the university and hospital for the area, however I support any improvement to the 493s reliability and frequency as well as a direct Wimbledon-Richmond via Roehampton route. The Superloop gets a lot of slack but I am a huge fan of that route and hopefully it ends up happening.
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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 24, 2024 20:35:09 GMT
Lots of new residential development along Plough Lane too. The 493 is one of those orbital routes that really needs tidying up and also more suitable vehicles. Hopefully the Wimbledon-Richmond Superloop will go some way to that. I actually wonder if it'd be better to chop it at Roehampton in that instance and send it to Danebury Avenue or Bessborough Road and then recycle the PVR savings into increasing it to 6bph. Most longer-distance trips would still be catered for. I was thinking Barnes Common under the impression that the Superloop will bypass Southfields and it will keep the link to the university and hospital for the area, however I support any improvement to the 493s reliability and frequency as well as a direct Wimbledon-Richmond via Roehampton route. The Superloop gets a lot of slack but I am a huge fan of that route and hopefully it ends up happening. That’s true about the direct link link between Southfields to Queen Mary’s Hospital and Roehampton University being broken, I wonder how many journeys are made between the two? Is there enough space available on the Danebury Avenue stand for a 6bph route? If Hammersmith Bridge were open, I would be tempted to send the 493 to Hammersmith as Barnes Common is quite an isolated place to terminate.
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Post by evergreenadam on Apr 24, 2024 21:16:33 GMT
Although I like the 436 providing links from Clapham & Brixton to Lewisham, it has a lower frequency than the 35 & the Clapham/Brixton corridor is notorious for capacity problems. I would definitely increase the 37’s frequency though tbh it needs it regardless. There was talk of extending the 417 from Common to Clapham Junction but nothing came of it apart from including Clapham Common on the via points of the 417. Clapham Junction is the real missing link from the Clapham Park area, there is nothing to attract drivers on the South Circular out of their cars. The bus routes all run north-south with no orbital options south of Acre Lane.
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Post by abellion on Apr 24, 2024 21:40:00 GMT
I was thinking Barnes Common under the impression that the Superloop will bypass Southfields and it will keep the link to the university and hospital for the area, however I support any improvement to the 493s reliability and frequency as well as a direct Wimbledon-Richmond via Roehampton route. The Superloop gets a lot of slack but I am a huge fan of that route and hopefully it ends up happening. That’s true about the direct link link between Southfields to Queen Mary’s Hospital and Roehampton University being broken, I wonder how many journeys are made between the two? Is there enough space available on the Danebury Avenue stand for a 6bph route? If Hammersmith Bridge were open, I would be tempted to send the 493 to Hammersmith as Barnes Common is quite an isolated place to terminate. Barnes Common isn’t really relevant but it’s about the university and hospital more than anything, I’d assume the latter is a used link due to the proximity. I’m not too sure about stand space, and I think the 493 would be better off avoiding Hammersmith or the main benefit of cutting it back (reliability) risks becoming redundant, and the 72 should be back in that instance anyway.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 24, 2024 22:42:17 GMT
There was talk of extending the 417 from Common to Clapham Junction but nothing came of it apart from including Clapham Common on the via points of the 417. Clapham Junction is the real missing link from the Clapham Park area, there is nothing to attract drivers on the South Circular out of their cars. The bus routes all run north-south with no orbital options south of Acre Lane. The best way to achieve that IMO would be by extending the 45 via the A205, Clapham South, Nightingale Lane, Bolingbroke Grove, Strath Terrace and Clapham Junction. This keeps it away from The Avenue & Clapham Common West Side which can be extremely congested at times and gives the Wandsworth Common area some new links in the process
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