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Post by va59 on Jan 21, 2024 13:31:05 GMT
I had that a few times, think it was when the A12 upgrade works were taking place between Wanstead Station and the Green Man roundabout. Occasionally, drivers would also turn round at Woodford Bridge, rather than go into Claybury Hospital. The W14 was always one of my "go-to" routes when it had the J-reg Mercedes Breadvans, although Darts from the Townlink commercial routes often made appearances on the route as well. I think it only ever happened once or twice (perhaps locals will know more) but the Lynxs also appeared on the W14, which were certainly an upgrade from the 709Ds. In early years they were strict with allocation it was mainly the J reg 709D's with odd workings with the route 505 G reg 709D's. We then also got the Optare City Pacers from the 505 and a few years later the Iveco minibuses making odd workings. A few years into the contract then some Plaxton Pointer Dennis Darts made odd workings then after the take-over of West Coaches some of their buses used to appear on the route making odd workings. Their MCW Metroriders from the 249 made odd-workings and bought back memories of the W12. Some of the Wright bodied Darts made odd-workings. I would also never forgot a few times years later the route 66 Leyland Lynx odd workings or when W15 was changed the 811D's were used on the route. Sorry, do you mean that a Leyland Lynx appeared on the W14 route? Wow. I would love to have seen that if so.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 21, 2024 13:52:01 GMT
In early years they were strict with allocation it was mainly the J reg 709D's with odd workings with the route 505 G reg 709D's. We then also got the Optare City Pacers from the 505 and a few years later the Iveco minibuses making odd workings. A few years into the contract then some Plaxton Pointer Dennis Darts made odd workings then after the take-over of West Coaches some of their buses used to appear on the route making odd workings. Their MCW Metroriders from the 249 made odd-workings and bought back memories of the W12. Some of the Wright bodied Darts made odd-workings. I would also never forgot a few times years later the route 66 Leyland Lynx odd workings or when W15 was changed the 811D's were used on the route. Sorry, do you mean that a Leyland Lynx appeared on the W14 route? Wow. I would love to have seen that if so. Yes it did, a few times, the last few years they operated on the 66. Then shortly after the 66 went to Grey-Green they were still used.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 22, 2024 12:40:12 GMT
Sorry, do you mean that a Leyland Lynx appeared on the W14 route? Wow. I would love to have seen that if so. Yes it did, a few times, the last few years they operated on the 66. Then shortly after the 66 went to Grey-Green they were still used. The H-GEV Lynxs on the 66 were great vehicles. Probably the best sounding single deck vehicles I've ever travelled on, and they absolutely flew up and down the A12
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 23, 2024 9:04:38 GMT
Yes it did, a few times, the last few years they operated on the 66. Then shortly after the 66 went to Grey-Green they were still used. The H-GEV Lynxs on the 66 were great vehicles. Probably the best sounding single deck vehicles I've ever travelled on, and they absolutely flew up and down the A12 Most Leyland Lynx's used to fly. I definitely remember some very fast rides on the W12 with them, nothing could touch them. The same goes for the ones that Boroline (later Kentish Bus) had on the 108. I also remember the Thamesway ones on route 2 when they hit Snaresbrook Rd
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Post by evergreenadam on Jan 23, 2024 23:22:36 GMT
This shows that they do notice what we are saying on here and are watching 👀 (Central London planned changes I'm sure some ideas came from here that they kept) they just don't listen overall . It's a shame because there were a lot of better alternatives suggested for the W12/W13/W14 consultation, and I'm sure local residents also would have raised concerns over some of the broken W12 links. These routes did need to be looked at, the infrequent 549 had room for improvment by incorporating into another route, and the W12 will benefit from having a higher frequency, plus the W13 is quite a short route so has scope for an extension. But a lot of established links will now be broken, particularly from Walthamstow to the area around the Central Line stations (Wanstead, South Woodford etc). For TFL's proposals to work they need one further change to cover those links, the W12 was never that direct anyway (plus low capacity/frequency), so something like a 357 extension would seem an ideal solution. Or alternatively just rework all of the proposals completely. Not sure though with what you say about the Central London consultation. The only changes that were really made (other than not going ahead with most of the proposals, and some renumberings such as keeping the 11) were the 6/98 swap. But in this case I think TFL's original version was better, as that would have maintained the 16's link from Victoria to Kilburn, rather than just to Maida Vale as the 6 does now (which just parallels the 36 more to Queens Park). Interesting point about the 6/98 and 6/36 though I would imagine that Kilburn to Oxford Street attracts heavier demand than Kilburn to Victoria, especially during shopping hours. What sort of extension to route 357 were you thinking of?
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Post by yunus on May 12, 2024 0:41:37 GMT
What buses will cover for the changes on these routes from Autumn as it is more than likely the new Electrics will not be running?
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Post by sam97 on May 12, 2024 7:42:18 GMT
What buses will cover for the changes on these routes from Autumn as it is more than likely the new Electrics will not be running? [be] I’d say the current busses from the 309 could go on the W12 (hopefully W11 electrics be operating by then) and few of the W14 buses could go on the W13 extension
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Post by DT 11 on May 12, 2024 8:17:10 GMT
What buses will cover for the changes on these routes from Autumn as it is more than likely the new Electrics will not be running? The fleet from the W5 will be spare
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Post by WH241 on May 12, 2024 8:55:47 GMT
What buses will cover for the changes on these routes from Autumn as it is more than likely the new Electrics will not be running? I don't think the delays for electric buses will be as bad as others for these routes. Building work has been taking place at LI for sometime which I assume is related to upgrading the garage for more electric routes. I imagine buses will enter service not long after the tender renewal / buses are delivered.
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Post by WH241 on May 12, 2024 21:22:39 GMT
When I am in Woodford and see the W14 I think to myself what an utter mess the whole renumbering and changes are.
I really hope the publicity is good for these changes.
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Post by yunus on May 12, 2024 21:57:48 GMT
What buses will cover for the changes on these routes from Autumn as it is more than likely the new Electrics will not be running? The fleet from the W5 will be spare Unless AW have the chargers live for the W5 by then? I heard that the owners from wherever need to grant permission.
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