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Post by londonbuses on Aug 26, 2023 19:06:19 GMT
New Malden/The Fountain (L) -> New Malden/Kingston Road New Malden/The Fountain (K) -> New Malden/Fountain Roundabout Looks like TfL have used the Superloop scheme as a chance to fix the anomaly of the K5 serving "New Malden the Fountain" twice.
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Post by surab21 on Aug 26, 2023 20:28:48 GMT
Superloop bus stop name changes
Route SL7
North Cheam/Queen Victoria -> North Cheam/London Road New Malden/The Fountain (L) -> New Malden/Kingston Road New Malden/The Fountain (K) -> New Malden/Fountain Roundabout Wood Street -> Kingston/Wood Street Route SL8
Lees Road -> Hillingdon Heath/Lees Road The Grapes -> Hayes/The Grapes Trinity Road -> Southall/Trinity Road Southall Police Station (eastbound) and North Road (westbound) -> Southall/North Road Christchurch -> Bond Street Christchurch (M) -> Ealing/Christchurch Bromyard Avenue -> Acton Vale/Bromyard Avenue Route SL9
Willow Tree Lane -> Yeading Lane/Willow Tree Lane Manor Lane (northbound) and Manse Close (southbound) -> Harlington High Street/Sipson Lane Station Parade -> Northolt Park Station Hayes Town -> Hayes Town Centre The Grapes -> Hayes/The Grapes Tangmere Gardens -> Yeading/Tangmere Gardens Dilston Close -> Yeading/Dilston Close Is there really a point in naming Station Parade Northolt Park Station for the SL9? Its not like its regularly served Yes there is a point, because if people look at the stop 'Station Parade' it doesn't mean anything unless you are a local and know exactly where Station Parade is. Northolt Park Station, even though it's not served by regular trains, is a much better geographical point for people to anchor themselves to, especially if unfamiliar with the route (which I guess is the point of the Superloop - to induce more demand). Imagine it like this; if there's a bus stop called 'Argyle Road' you wouldn't know where that is just from the name, right? But if the stop was renamed South Greenford Station, even though it doesn't serve regular trains and may not be the actual destination of many people on the bus, you would have a much better idea of roughly where the stop is!
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Post by vjaska on Aug 26, 2023 21:16:04 GMT
Is there really a point in naming Station Parade Northolt Park Station for the SL9? Its not like its regularly served Yes there is a point, because if people look at the stop 'Station Parade' it doesn't mean anything unless you are a local and know exactly where Station Parade is. Northolt Park Station, even though it's not served by regular trains, is a much better geographical point for people to anchor themselves to, especially if unfamiliar with the route (which I guess is the point of the Superloop - to induce more demand). Imagine it like this; if there's a bus stop called 'Argyle Road' you wouldn't know where that is just from the name, right? But if the stop was renamed South Greenford Station, even though it doesn't serve regular trains and may not be the actual destination of many people on the bus, you would have a much better idea of roughly where the stop is! Surely the solution then is to keep the original name and just add Northolt Park Station as then both regulars and non regulars would be catered for
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Post by surab21 on Aug 26, 2023 22:28:35 GMT
Yes there is a point, because if people look at the stop 'Station Parade' it doesn't mean anything unless you are a local and know exactly where Station Parade is. Northolt Park Station, even though it's not served by regular trains, is a much better geographical point for people to anchor themselves to, especially if unfamiliar with the route (which I guess is the point of the Superloop - to induce more demand). Imagine it like this; if there's a bus stop called 'Argyle Road' you wouldn't know where that is just from the name, right? But if the stop was renamed South Greenford Station, even though it doesn't serve regular trains and may not be the actual destination of many people on the bus, you would have a much better idea of roughly where the stop is! Surely the solution then is to keep the original name and just add Northolt Park Station as then both regulars and non regulars would be catered for Yes that's a valid point. Though Station Parade is not easily searchable on Google as the building doesn't appear marked on the map (other than the bus stop previously of the same name), which I think could have been a factor in the decision to remove it. You need to go all the way into streetview to see any indication of where the building is. It can't have been judged a significant enough landmark to stay, I guess.
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Post by surab21 on Mar 3, 2024 18:06:14 GMT
Happened a few years ago now, but the old Nightingale Hospital alighting point has been covered in white (vinyl? paint..?) so the information is not visible. Unsure why they haven't just removed the stop altogether. Saves putting one back in for the next pandemic I guess! linkThe stop/shelter (A) further up the road ( link) has been removed.
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Post by surab21 on Apr 16, 2024 21:52:05 GMT
Routes 427, A10, U1, U3, U4, U7
"Manor Waye" -> "Manor Waye - St Andrews Park" (though I am not sure the name sticker on the stop flag itself has changed). Might be the only bus stop name with a hyphen!
And on the 427, the final/first stops in Southall are shown as "Bridge Road (UB2)" and "The Green (UB2)" on LVF, I wonder if this is actually what's shown on iBus screens too? Might be the only pair of bus stop names with a postcode in them!
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Post by borneobus on Apr 17, 2024 1:06:16 GMT
Routes 427, A10, U1, U3, U4, U7 "Manor Waye" -> "Manor Waye - St Andrews Park" (though I am not sure the name sticker on the stop flag itself has changed). Might be the only bus stop name with a hyphen! And on the 427, the final/first stops in Southall are shown as "Bridge Road (UB2)" and "The Green (UB2)" on LVF, I wonder if this is actually what's shown on iBus screens too? Might be the only pair of bus stop names with a postcode in them! Might be the only bus stop name with a hyphen!
Sorrreee, there's one nearby: terminus of 207 is "Hayes by-Pass" ...and I cheated...confirmed with Google Maps as containing hyphen Caterham-on-the-Hill Tesco (404/466) Al-Emaan Centre / Keston Mosque (353) * On the U3 route "The Green" shows on iBus screens as "The Green" not "The Green (UB7)"
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Post by surab21 on Apr 17, 2024 19:33:56 GMT
Routes 427, A10, U1, U3, U4, U7 "Manor Waye" -> "Manor Waye - St Andrews Park" (though I am not sure the name sticker on the stop flag itself has changed). Might be the only bus stop name with a hyphen! And on the 427, the final/first stops in Southall are shown as "Bridge Road (UB2)" and "The Green (UB2)" on LVF, I wonder if this is actually what's shown on iBus screens too? Might be the only pair of bus stop names with a postcode in them! Might be the only bus stop name with a hyphen!
Sorrreee, there's one nearby: terminus of 207 is "Hayes by-Pass" ...and I cheated...confirmed with Google Maps as containing hyphen Caterham-on-the-Hill Tesco (404/466) Al-Emaan Centre / Keston Mosque (353) * On the U3 route "The Green" shows on iBus screens as "The Green" not "The Green (UB7)" Ah no I meant hyphen to connect two separate words (as in with a space either side), rather than as part of a place/road/building name Good to know for route U3, must be an LVF quirk then.
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Post by surab21 on May 25, 2024 21:21:43 GMT
Stops on Route 302 on Deansbrook Road (westbound only) have had their q-tiles changed from 'towards Edgware or Kingsbury' to 'towards Burnt Oak Station (LU roundel)' today... Only took TfL 1,736 days to amend them after the 303 was rerouted away from this road (severing the link to Edgware)!
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Post by vjaska on May 26, 2024 0:17:30 GMT
One of the Lambeth Town Hall shelters on Brixton Hill has been painted orange presumably for an advertising campaign, no idea why beyond that Meanwhile, another infuriating shelter replacement on Brixton Hill where once again, a shelter that had a countdown screen no longer has one now - Blenheim Gardens northbound stop to be precise. So now, my local northbound stop and southbound stop both don't have countdown screens anymore after having their shelters replaced Is there not a specific email I can contact beyond the usual generic one that TfL has to complain, regardless of whether I get a positive outcome or not?
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Post by mondraker275 on May 26, 2024 9:53:47 GMT
One of the Lambeth Town Hall shelters on Brixton Hill has been painted orange presumably for an advertising campaign, no idea why beyond that Meanwhile, another infuriating shelter replacement on Brixton Hill where once again, a shelter that had a countdown screen no longer has one now - Blenheim Gardens northbound stop to be precise. So now, my local northbound stop and southbound stop both don't have countdown screens anymore after having their shelters replaced Is there not a specific email I can contact beyond the usual generic one that TfL has to complain, regardless of whether I get a positive outcome or not? I have given up on this myself. Tried email and the online reporting tool/map and still not fixed countdowns not working or those missing. There is a stop that has been out for about 2 and half years. They seem to have given up or not focussing on this at the moment. If you complain about a replaced shelter they tend to give the waiting to wire it up nonsense. There was that PDF they had that listed all missing countdowns but can't seem to locate at the moment. Anyone know if they still do this? There is a genuine benefit to having these despite it being available on phones. Also, I believe all SuperLoop stops should have bar the last/penultimate stops where it would be unnecessary.
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Post by surab21 on May 26, 2024 16:00:49 GMT
One of the Lambeth Town Hall shelters on Brixton Hill has been painted orange presumably for an advertising campaign, no idea why beyond that Meanwhile, another infuriating shelter replacement on Brixton Hill where once again, a shelter that had a countdown screen no longer has one now - Blenheim Gardens northbound stop to be precise. So now, my local northbound stop and southbound stop both don't have countdown screens anymore after having their shelters replaced Is there not a specific email I can contact beyond the usual generic one that TfL has to complain, regardless of whether I get a positive outcome or not? I have given up on this myself. Tried email and the online reporting tool/map and still not fixed countdowns not working or those missing. There is a stop that has been out for about 2 and half years. They seem to have given up or not focussing on this at the moment. If you complain about a replaced shelter they tend to give the waiting to wire it up nonsense. There was that PDF they had that listed all missing countdowns but can't seem to locate at the moment. Anyone know if they still do this? There is a genuine benefit to having these despite it being available on phones. Also, I believe all SuperLoop stops should have bar the last/penultimate stops where it would be unnecessary. content.tfl.gov.uk/temporary-countdown-sign-removals.pdf but it hasn't been updated since December.
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Post by vjaska on May 26, 2024 19:30:38 GMT
One of the Lambeth Town Hall shelters on Brixton Hill has been painted orange presumably for an advertising campaign, no idea why beyond that Meanwhile, another infuriating shelter replacement on Brixton Hill where once again, a shelter that had a countdown screen no longer has one now - Blenheim Gardens northbound stop to be precise. So now, my local northbound stop and southbound stop both don't have countdown screens anymore after having their shelters replaced Is there not a specific email I can contact beyond the usual generic one that TfL has to complain, regardless of whether I get a positive outcome or not? I have given up on this myself. Tried email and the online reporting tool/map and still not fixed countdowns not working or those missing. There is a stop that has been out for about 2 and half years. They seem to have given up or not focussing on this at the moment. If you complain about a replaced shelter they tend to give the waiting to wire it up nonsense. There was that PDF they had that listed all missing countdowns but can't seem to locate at the moment. Anyone know if they still do this? There is a genuine benefit to having these despite it being available on phones. Also, I believe all SuperLoop stops should have bar the last/penultimate stops where it would be unnecessary. I came across another one today - Caldicot Road westbound on Coldharbour Lane is another that had a countdown screen (albeit it was always one minute early for some reason) but now has a newish shelter and no screen anymore. Very bad practice by TfL - really shows how far they've fallen especially it seems they can't even to bother updating the "temporary" countdown removal list
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