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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 2:44:01 GMT
28: no new buses since 2004 with the VNWs and it’s used existing buses ever since.
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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 3:09:13 GMT
The 282 and U4 since 2003 and E6 since 2007 but gained brand new DEs in 2008 midway that contract.
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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 3:19:14 GMT
U2 and U3 since 2003.U7 since 1999.
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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 3:28:47 GMT
H13: since 1999 but was retained in 2013 by Transdev with existing DEs and 1 brand new DLE.
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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 3:33:41 GMT
107: since 1999 it was supposed to get new buses in 2009 when it was retained by Metroline with new buses but never got them and had existing VPLs instead.
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Post by COBO on Jun 13, 2023 3:59:07 GMT
113 is a weird route gained brand new VMHs midway it's current contract but it's supposed to be with existing TEHs from the 139 because it was retained by Metroline in 2017 with existing TEHs but was replaced midway with brand new VMHs. In 2012 it was retained by Metroline with brand new buses but never got them but got existing TEs from the 189. So could say that the 113 has never had new buses even though it has gained new buses apart from new VMHs midway it's 2017 contract but before that it hadn’t gained new buses since 2000.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 13, 2023 4:43:59 GMT
Might have you beat, I don’t think the 255 has ever had a new set of vehicles. It hasn’t had its own set of new vehicles. The 255 is a weird case really, I still remember when it was allocated DDL’s, then in 2012 it received DWL’s cascaded from the 289 when that got its ENX’s then received the ENL’s from the 173. It might change next year though, depending on who wins it although Go-Ahead do now have Streetlites available from the 39 or E200’s from the 163/164 that they could win it with. Funny enough YY13VKP and southlondon413 those vehicles on the 255 were actually originally allocated to the 325 but what ended up happening was a little merry-go-round. So the 59-reg that came off the 168 (albeit it was allocated to the 78 at this time) went to DX around 2015 which in turn swapped the allocation for the 173 (60-reg) onto the 325 thus allowing the 10-reg to go on the 255
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 13, 2023 4:49:14 GMT
2003. Wowsers. Does stagecoach not respect that route enough to give it some new buses. Like honestly. That is really bad. The 4 has been a dustbin route, almost always getting buses from another route and not a fresh new batch to start from day one. 86 has not had new vehicles since early 2000's although has had odd working new buses from other routes. 97 has had existing buses for years, in fact I believe its last new buses would have been the Titan's in early 80's. It never had fresh new buses for contract under Capital Citybus/First Capital, nor since Stagecoach took over the route since 2005, where it had existing buses. Oh yes I do remember the 97 in 2000. In fact one time when first capital used to stick their garage address in orange/yellow on the side of their bus I saw the Chequers Lane address on the trident. I thought to myself that's a bit far for them buses to travel onto the 97 hahaha not knowing that the folks from Marsh Lane didn't update it as of yet.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 13, 2023 5:39:02 GMT
The 157 hasn’t received new buses since 2001 when it had its tridents delivered but that of course is about to change when Go-Ahead win the route. I don’t think the 412 has received new buses since DW1-9 were delivered in 2003. The current allocation (T279-287) were ordered new for route 60.
The 359 also joins the 255 as having never received its own new buses, though did it receive a Dart back in 1999/2000 when the T33 got them?
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 13, 2023 7:11:59 GMT
It hasn’t had its own set of new vehicles. The 255 is a weird case really, I still remember when it was allocated DDL’s, then in 2012 it received DWL’s cascaded from the 289 when that got its ENX’s then received the ENL’s from the 173. It might change next year though, depending on who wins it although Go-Ahead do now have Streetlites available from the 39 or E200’s from the 163/164 that they could win it with. Funny enough YY13VKP and southlondon413 those vehicles on the 255 were actually originally allocated to the 325 but what ended up happening was a little merry-go-round. So the 59-reg that came off the 168 (albeit it was allocated to the 78 at this time) went to DX around 2015 which in turn swapped the allocation for the 173 (60-reg) onto the 325 thus allowing the 10-reg to go on the 255 The 59 Reg T66-83 came off the 38, not the 168. DW401-424 were ordered for the 78 and another route but instead diverted to the 38.
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Post by TB123 on Jun 13, 2023 7:15:04 GMT
Funny enough YY13VKP and southlondon413 those vehicles on the 255 were actually originally allocated to the 325 but what ended up happening was a little merry-go-round. So the 59-reg that came off the 168 (albeit it was allocated to the 78 at this time) went to DX around 2015 which in turn swapped the allocation for the 173 (60-reg) onto the 325 thus allowing the 10-reg to go on the 255 The 59 Reg T66-83 came off the 38, not the 168. DW401-424 were ordered for the 78 and another route but instead diverted to the 38. 78 and the 159 Paddington extension wasn't it?
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Post by WH241 on Jun 13, 2023 8:21:27 GMT
Am I right in thinking the 101 has not had any new buses since the SLWs in the mid 90s? I think it had a few newer darts for a time from the 104 and 238 but they were not brought for the 101.
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Post by TB123 on Jun 13, 2023 8:33:57 GMT
Am I right in thinking the 101 has not had any new buses since the SLWs in the mid 90s? I think it had a few newer darts for a time from the 104 and 238 but they were not brought for the 101. It got new 12 plate E400s didn't it?
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Post by M1199 on Jun 13, 2023 8:59:00 GMT
Always thought it was odd that the 607, despite its stature, received brand new Olympians in 1996 and then only hand me downs until it received its VMH’s in 2019. Not that I’m complaining, as the TNL’s & VNW’s/VW’s were awesome on it!
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 13, 2023 9:08:47 GMT
Funny enough YY13VKP and southlondon413 those vehicles on the 255 were actually originally allocated to the 325 but what ended up happening was a little merry-go-round. So the 59-reg that came off the 168 (albeit it was allocated to the 78 at this time) went to DX around 2015 which in turn swapped the allocation for the 173 (60-reg) onto the 325 thus allowing the 10-reg to go on the 255 The 59 Reg T66-83 came off the 38, not the 168. DW401-424 were ordered for the 78 and another route but instead diverted to the 38. That part I knew but what I was saying was in 2015 when the 168 went to Metroline. The VLWs ended up staying at AE along with the 168 Ts onto the 78 until the hybrids came and then thats when the Ts went for its refurbishment for the 368 (before they done it's own swap with the 150 buses but that's a discussion for another day) for a little bit longer whilst the original Ts from the 38 (which was sent to AE for the 78) left to go to DX. So we were both right.
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