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Post by sam97 on May 5, 2024 9:17:15 GMT
Nah man, Victoria is a cursed place! Just now there’s a few police cars and several paramedics and ambulances, all scattered around Victoria. I’m not sure what happened but I guess it’s inside the train station. Crazy how just the other day someone got knocked by a bus. Ain’t that some s***
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Post by ADH45258 on May 5, 2024 9:44:19 GMT
The 134 to Victoria would be quite an extension. I assume you want it to take over the ex-C2 routing? The 476 should start at the stop in front of King’s Cross station — as outlined in the consultation! Yes to both. I actually think the 134 would be the perfect route to have replace the C2 up to Victoria from Camden Town at the time of the consultation. It wouldnt have made much difference to journey time other than I’d say an extra 15 minutes max than its previous route to TCR / St Giles. The 88 extended to PHF to have the locals up at Hampstead Road for journeys towards Kentish Town and it would have been superb, would relieve the 24/27 quite a ton. The 134 is already quite a long route, so I think an extension to Victoria could be too unreliable. But what could maybe work is from Victoria to Muswell Hill, then in place extend the W7 to North Finchley?
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Post by ronnie on May 5, 2024 9:51:26 GMT
Yes to both. I actually think the 134 would be the perfect route to have replace the C2 up to Victoria from Camden Town at the time of the consultation. It wouldnt have made much difference to journey time other than I’d say an extra 15 minutes max than its previous route to TCR / St Giles. The 88 extended to PHF to have the locals up at Hampstead Road for journeys towards Kentish Town and it would have been superb, would relieve the 24/27 quite a ton. The 134 is already quite a long route, so I think an extension to Victoria could be too unreliable. But what could maybe work is from Victoria to Muswell Hill, then in place extend the W7 to North Finchley? I am not local (so feel free to disagree) but it’s been discussed time and again that the W7 has exactly one purpose, linking Muswell hill and Crouch End to the nearest rail head (Finsbury park); and it does well. It has a very high PVR for precisely that reason. No sense whatsoever in sending such a high PVR to North Finchley or anywhere else
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 3:01:26 GMT
Happy May Day Holiday everyone.
Hopefully, like on a Saturday, I shall go back to sleep briefly just before or after breakfast (but not during my breakfast lol!
Thankfully I was able to swap shifts and start at 10am instead of 8am.
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Post by greg on May 7, 2024 1:10:31 GMT
Yes to both. I actually think the 134 would be the perfect route to have replace the C2 up to Victoria from Camden Town at the time of the consultation. It wouldnt have made much difference to journey time other than I’d say an extra 15 minutes max than its previous route to TCR / St Giles. The 88 extended to PHF to have the locals up at Hampstead Road for journeys towards Kentish Town and it would have been superb, would relieve the 24/27 quite a ton. The 134 is already quite a long route, so I think an extension to Victoria could be too unreliable. But what could maybe work is from Victoria to Muswell Hill, then in place extend the W7 to North Finchley? More simpler terms is the 134 up to Regent Street, and the 22 revised as to Oxford Circus. 88 rerouted via its old route. Previously what the 88/C2 used to do basically before they were merged.
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Post by SILENCED on May 7, 2024 10:15:57 GMT
Half the Croydon bound 197s terminating at Norwood Junction. Not great when half the buses miss the busiest section . And only one of those showing as going to Croydon has left the Peckham area. Anyone know what's going on?
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Post by southlondon413 on May 7, 2024 10:52:29 GMT
Half the Croydon bound 197s terminating at Norwood Junction. Not great when half the buses miss the busiest section . And only one of those showing as going to Croydon has left the Peckham area. Anyone know what's going on? I suspect the rail strike is having an effect on the route.
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Post by SILENCED on May 7, 2024 11:12:04 GMT
Half the Croydon bound 197s terminating at Norwood Junction. Not great when half the buses miss the busiest section . And only one of those showing as going to Croydon has left the Peckham area. Anyone know what's going on? I suspect the rail strike is having an effect on the route. Surely an even better reason for not abandoning the busiest section of the route.
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Post by DT 11 on May 7, 2024 11:26:11 GMT
I suspect the rail strike is having an effect on the route. Surely an even better reason for not abandoning the busiest section of the route. A lot of buses in the Catford & Lewisham area are being curtailed as well. That’s what happens when it’s run from PM unfortunately under C & TC would be Peckham Rye or Dulwich Library.
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Post by SILENCED on May 7, 2024 11:46:46 GMT
Surely an even better reason for not abandoning the busiest section of the route. A lot of buses in the Catford & Lewisham area are being curtailed as well. That’s what happens when it’s run from PM unfortunately under C & TC would be Peckham Rye or Dulwich Library. That end has other parallel routes operating along side it. A lot of the Croydon end is unique, especially if waiting on Morland Road without Countdown displays. Yet more evidence of how buses are not operated before the benefit of passengers, rather the operators. It is rubbish. If GAL continue to operate the 197 from PM like this, I sincerely hope they lose it come 2026.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 7, 2024 11:57:30 GMT
A lot of buses in the Catford & Lewisham area are being curtailed as well. That’s what happens when it’s run from PM unfortunately under C & TC would be Peckham Rye or Dulwich Library. That end has other parallel routes operating along side it. A lot of the Croydon end is unique, especially if waiting on Morland Road without Countdown displays. Yet more evidence of how buses are not operated before the benefit of passengers, rather the operators. It is rubbish. If GAL continue to operate the 197 from PM like this, I sincerely hope they lose it come 2026. To who? Arriva do this the minute someone sneezes on one of their buses while Abellio are full now. Stagecoach could probably manage out of KB.
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Post by DT 11 on May 7, 2024 12:11:22 GMT
A lot of buses in the Catford & Lewisham area are being curtailed as well. That’s what happens when it’s run from PM unfortunately under C & TC would be Peckham Rye or Dulwich Library. That end has other parallel routes operating along side it. A lot of the Croydon end is unique, especially if waiting on Morland Road without Countdown displays. Yet more evidence of how buses are not operated before the benefit of passengers, rather the operators. It is rubbish. If GAL continue to operate the 197 from PM like this, I sincerely hope they lose it come 2026. Are there any temporary lights on the 197 or I can guess it is just extra traffic? That end has other parallel routes operating along side it. A lot of the Croydon end is unique, especially if waiting on Morland Road without Countdown displays. Yet more evidence of how buses are not operated before the benefit of passengers, rather the operators. It is rubbish. If GAL continue to operate the 197 from PM like this, I sincerely hope they lose it come 2026. To who? Arriva do this the minute someone sneezes on one of their buses while Abellio are full now. Stagecoach could probably manage out of KB. Nothings changed I see… A few months ago someone’s laundry burst open and covered the whole lower deck with soap, I suspect you think I would carry on in service. Come on sneezing even a 3 year old could come up with a better comment than that…
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 7, 2024 12:48:03 GMT
That end has other parallel routes operating along side it. A lot of the Croydon end is unique, especially if waiting on Morland Road without Countdown displays. Yet more evidence of how buses are not operated before the benefit of passengers, rather the operators. It is rubbish. If GAL continue to operate the 197 from PM like this, I sincerely hope they lose it come 2026. Are there any temporary lights on the 197 or I can guess it is just extra traffic? To who? Arriva do this the minute someone sneezes on one of their buses while Abellio are full now. Stagecoach could probably manage out of KB. Nothings changed I see… A few months ago someone’s laundry burst open and covered the whole lower deck with soap, I suspect you think I would carry on in service. Come on sneezing even a 3 year old could come up with a better comment than that… What's the problem? Arriva do it and they can do no wrong, Go Ahead do it and people want them to lose the route.
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Post by greenboy on May 7, 2024 12:54:37 GMT
Half the Croydon bound 197s terminating at Norwood Junction. Not great when half the buses miss the busiest section . And only one of those showing as going to Croydon has left the Peckham area. Anyone know what's going on? The Croydon end always suffers in the event of disruption since the 197 moved to PM, I don't recall that many Dulwich turns when it operated from C? The 312 and 410 usually get packed out as a result.
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Post by DT 11 on May 7, 2024 13:02:02 GMT
Are there any temporary lights on the 197 or I can guess it is just extra traffic? Nothings changed I see… A few months ago someone’s laundry burst open and covered the whole lower deck with soap, I suspect you think I would carry on in service. Come on sneezing even a 3 year old could come up with a better comment than that… What's the problem? Arriva do it and they can do no wrong, Go Ahead do it and people want them to lose the route. Most operators use 30% rule these days and expect more of it especially when they do go Electric. I was in town earlier and noticed a number of curtailed buses on the 54 75 185 208 however will go unnoticed. There is obviously major disruption today on many routes The 197 is one of those routes regardless of who runs it will run into difficulties however it is definitely more noticeable that PM running the route now because of the end it is run from. C ran the route with no problem. In addition well why did you mention Stagecoach should gain the 197 then? Overall there is a fair share of individuals on here who would wish operators loose work. In addition it is not the first time SILENCED has complained about the 197 at PM.
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