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Post by mkay315 on Aug 28, 2022 7:50:06 GMT
Another bus I would have preserved is R385LGH, R396LGH and S220LLO. The two R-reg buses because of it's time with London General and Central respectively and the S-reg one though I think S215LLO and 216 is already preserved. I missed those buses when they were on the 341 and the 158 for a short time.
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Post by VPL630 on Aug 28, 2022 8:37:26 GMT
For me it would be E57 LX07BYH E61 LX07BYG E108 LX09FAO EH10 SN61DAO WVN40 BV10WWC or WHV111 BX14TJV If you want EH10 it’s currently sitting in the yard at Ensignbus, which gives you some idea as to the state that it’s in, along with E1
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Wished he got all Tridents driven like how he got TN33186 driven!
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Post by tts on Oct 9, 2022 9:11:35 GMT
I’d have to go for one of the SK02 DPS’s which did the H9 / H10. Excellent batch for Euro 3 Darts with whiny AT545’s - what’s not to like about them?
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Post by M1104 on Oct 9, 2022 10:52:28 GMT
In time I would love to preserve an E400 Smart hybrid from Stagecoach or Abellio, them being one of the last of London's primarily diesel buses. I would however then get the kickdown function remapped to enable better gearholds.
For more on the present time frame I'd go for:
euro2 ZF Trident (ALX400 or President)
euro 3 Voith Trident (ALX400 or President)
B9TL (VE1-3 as first choice, else any London spec)
euro3 DB250 (ALX400 or Wright Pulsar)
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Post by mkay315 on Apr 29, 2023 7:24:10 GMT
I would have wanted to have preserved a dennis lance. Preferably the Northern Counties Paladin that were on the 113 in the 90s and the J-WSC Alexander PS that were on the 145 and other BK routes at the time. Still cannot believe none of those buses got preserved. *sighs* if only I was a little bit older and had more money I would have preserved one.
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Post by matthieu1221 on Apr 29, 2023 13:27:57 GMT
The Man NL262 that Citybus (Hong Kong) used to operate (in the original double door configuration). Pretty similar to the Man NL202 included in the OMSI2 base game for a reference point. Brilliant buses all around, with a nice and spacious interior which is all too rare on the single deckers which have followed.
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Post by borneobus on May 4, 2024 11:21:45 GMT
Can any Routemaster owner or expert help with the following questions please?
1) Thinking specifically about the Routemaster overhaul process at Aldenham Works (including ‘Works Float’) is my understanding (below) correct?
• Upon arrival for overhaul at Aldenham the first job would be to separate the Routemaster’s body from the chassis • Both body and chassis would be overhauled on separate ‘lines’ (which I assume were different time scales) • Accordingly, there would be a separate ‘supply’ of freshly overhauled a) body and b) chassis • LT staff at Aldenham would then ‘mate’ an overhauled body to chassis allocating a ‘RM’ serial number to a Routemaster currently in overhaul process – crucially which neither the freshly overhauled chassis or body would have (likely) worn before. • So, as an example: RM300 could have arrived for its first overhaul on 1/3/66 and departed as RM300 on 2/3/66 with the chassis of freshly overhauled RM200 and freshly overhauled body of RM250.
Is this correct or, as I was always led to believe did the chassis retain the same RM number throughout its life but would have had many different bodies?
2) Were the prototypes exempt from the Routemaster overhaul process? – I assume yes due to differences with production buses - so to ask a specific question I rode green RM2 at the 65 Running Day – does that bus retain the original chassis and body as per when it was completed at Chiswick Works in 1955?
Many thanks in advance.
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Post by astock5000 on May 4, 2024 13:58:25 GMT
That is correct - with the float system, some fleet numbers 'disappeared' at Aldenham to create the works float and would only re-appear then the float for that variant of bus was reduced. For example there was no RM5 on the road between 1963 and 1972, but its components would have quickly emerged on buses with other identities.
It should be noted however that Routemasters do not have a chassis as such, instead having A (front) and B (rear) subframes, the body therefore being the major component of the vehicle. Routemaster bodies were numbered in a series from B1 upwards matching their original fleet number, and there were also two additional 'float bodies' for standard RMs (numbered in an earlier series as 9985 and 9986). These were intended to account for bodies taking longer to overhaul than the subframes but were used in the 1960s to replace two that had been written off with fire damage.
The four prototypes were indeed exempt due to their differences, along with RM8 (originally the test bus and only entered service in the mid 70s) and RML898 / 902 / 903 (visited the USA or Europe when new, and as with RTs that went on tour previously - but not a handful of RMs that did the same later on - retained their own bodies at overhaul).
The RCL fleet always retained their original bodies since they were too young to go through the overhaul process before London Country was split off in 1970, and a float was not established when they were purchased back by LT at the end of that decade. The RMLs new to the Country Area similarly never had their bodies swapped until most were bought back, and while there was still an RML float at that time only some of these were swapped - so buses such as RML2440 / 2456 (both now regulars at running days) also have their originals.
Finally, both RM6 and RML2760 did have different bodies fitted when they were just considered ordinary members of the fleet, but they regained their originals later once it was known the float system was to come to an end. RM5, however, eventually ended up with a body built after the change to fit opening windows on the front of the upper deck - these have since been replaced by fixed windows when the bus was restored to 'original' condition.
The Ian's Bus Stop website has details for the histories of each bus, and while not always complete they generally include at least the body fitted at last overhaul.
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Post by 6HP502C on May 4, 2024 20:58:11 GMT
The preserved Pyoneer (East Lancs names are always spelt funny!) is London Traveller R1LTB. It was in London for a grand total of 2 years before heading to Rodgers, who had a B10M Pyoneer which was once a coach. That was recently sold! I remember Grey Green had some rebodied B10Ms, do any of those survive? I hated those Grey-Green re-bodied Volvo's. The single deck ones that were on the 20 and 179; ugly as sin. The vomitastic ones that were the double deck coach sawn-off chassis hated them with a passion. They got beaten 100's of times with the ugly stick. I had a go driving one of those not long ago. Felt quite different to handle. I didn’t buy it in the end, instead purchasing a F plate B10M.
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